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When? Mon. May 8, '06 8:29 AM (permalink)
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When will version 3 come out? I can't belive we have had to waited for 1.5 years.
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RE: When? Mon. May 8, '06 12:51 PM (permalink)
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I am aiming for a summer release. Thanks for your patience.
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RE: When? Sat. Jul 1, '06 7:11 PM (permalink)
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ORIGINAL: Samuel

I am aiming for a summer release. Thanks for your patience.

 
please say when summer release would be?
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RE: When? Sun. Jul 2, '06 12:39 PM (permalink)
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I am sorry but I won't give a solid date for the release. Thanks for your patience.
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RE: When? Sun. Jul 9, '06 9:29 PM (permalink)
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Hi Samuel We know is summer because is very hot in California  any NEWS in the release of V3 thx.
 
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    RE: When? Mon. Jul 10, '06 5:40 AM (permalink)
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    Why don't we let Samuel finish working on it instead of constantly asking him when its going to be released?
     
    I'd rather have a solid upgrade in the near future than a crappy product he had to rush out the door because he said it might be done by a certain time.
     
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    RE: When? Mon. Jul 10, '06 6:43 AM (permalink)
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    Paying customers have 1) have a right to ask when the product will be ready and 2) a right  to be angry that development has taken so long.
     
    When I first purchased ASPPlayground I was impressed with the quick updates. It seemed as if there was a new and updated version each month. I paid my money expecting the same level of service to continue. It is now over 1.5 years with no appreciable change to the product. 
     
    We were told the .NET version would be ready in November. Six months since then and there is still no product, and the users of the software have seen their offerings fall far behind other forum platforms. Samuel has failed to keep us informed as to WHY it is taking so long, and I am sure many users have migrated to those tems.
     
    The long delay and the lack of communication amounts to a total failure to manage the upgrade process. At the very least, Samuel should have continued development of classic ASP until the .NET version is finished. 
     
    Samuel, get your act together and get this product released!
     
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      RE: When? Mon. Jul 10, '06 6:48 AM (permalink)
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      That last comment was mine. I had fogotten to login before posting.
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      RE: When? Mon. Jul 10, '06 9:53 AM (permalink)
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      (1) The next version was always to be .NET 2.0 based. Seems logical to me to wait on the impending release of the new framework.
      (2) .NET 2.0 was only officially released in Nov.
       
      Given the above, it should be no surprise that 3.0 wasn't released in Nov. Not to mention the gross missteps by the big players in their rush to market a .NET forum. I agree with Wayne, I really don't want to beta test a product rushed to market.
       
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      RE: When? Mon. Jul 10, '06 10:19 AM (permalink)
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      http://www.aspplayground.net/forum/fb.aspx?m=393178 was my last comment on version 3 (posted 7/7/2006)

      I apologize for the delay again and thanks for your comment. There were some personal issues involved that caused this delay and I am glad everything is settled now at my end.
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      RE: When? Mon. Jul 10, '06 12:50 PM (permalink)
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      "Paying customers have 1) have a right to ask when the product will be ready and 2) a right  to be angry that development has taken so long. "
       
      This isn't exactly Microsoft we are dealing with here. If it were, the cost would be a great deal higher and the product wouldn't work right! And BTW, even Microsoft is famous for delaying their announced releases months and sometimes years later!
       
      I am not happy about waiting for the update either, but I got what I paid for, and have been using it perfectly fine. If there is a bug in the paid for code, it is fixed very quickly and I think you can see regular patch updates in the appropriate forum. That is what you are paying for with the current release of any software product. Samuel also always takes the time to address issues with the current paid for version here in these forums. That is what I consider having paid for - patch updates and ongoing support. A brand new version with new features is R&D until its ready - and wil only be paid for after it is ready, released, and we buy it.
       
      Other companies, btw, end support after a set period of time - or charge you extra money to continue it. I don't see Samuel saying we have to pay him annual maintenance fees. Other companies will only support their product to a certain point. Samuel has always tried to answer every question we pose him here, and in the rare case where he doesn't know, he says so. No one is ever left hanging.
       
      Samuel has also previously posted that he has been going through some personal issues, this isn't new news unless you missed it. So let's cut the guy a break, I'm sure HE wants to get the new version out just as badly as we want to have it, and as a new product it will be ready when its ready and not a minute sooner. We can ask him today until Sunday to give us a date, and then if he misses that date for whatever reason, he looks bad again for not coming through. It is very wise of him to hold off on a release date until he has a better chance to estimate. I am not a professional developer, but I have tinkered here and there and it is not easy - the simplest routine can take days to figure out when you are trying to implement it with speed, stability, and compatibility.
       
      I'm sure when the new version is finally ready it will be great and we will all be very happy with it. But just keep in mind, every time we post another query asking when will the new code be ready, Samuel has to stop working on writing the new code, and answer the query, putting him that much further behind. That is why I say, let's leave him alone to write the code, and hang on a little longer. I'm sure it will be here before we know it.
       
       
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      RE: When? Fri. Jul 14, '06 5:57 AM (permalink)
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      big deal WayneM, you should get a discount in the next upgrade, i am sure sam is capable of respodning to our posts, saying nice things won't get you a better deal, not fair to compare this thing to ms, what do you say about other companies that provide updates on a regular basis and a timely manner ?
       
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        RE: When? Fri. Jul 14, '06 8:27 AM (permalink)
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        Saying nice things won't get me a better deal? Curses, foiled again!
         
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        RE: When? Fri. Jul 14, '06 11:48 AM (permalink)
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        big deal WayneM, you should get a discount in the next upgrade, i am sure sam is capable of respodning to our posts, saying nice things won't get you a better deal, not fair to compare this thing to ms, what do you say about other companies that provide updates on a regular basis and a timely manner ?


        I am sure Sam is capable to respond to our posts as well, but just as customers who have complaints have the right to express them, also customers who are satisfied with a product have the right to do so if they wish. So, if you are free to comment sarcastically on WayneM's opinions, I want instead to express my total appreciation for Samuel's work, and I totally share WayneM point of view; in my personal experience, over the years Samuel has provided us with simply spotless support for an already excellent product, and he deservs to get credit for this. All that I paid for was fully worthed, and I'd buy this forum software again tomorrow.

        On a personal note, with all the companies, much larger than Samuel's, not delivering what they promise, I am totally happy in expressing how happy I am with AspPlayGround: it's very very very well coded, and support is super.

        And, I just don't buy the idea that those who say they are happy with a product say so just to gain some extra benefit. I don't need any discount. Actually, when v 3.0 is ready, I'll be happy to pay for his excellent work.

         
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        RE: When? Fri. Jul 14, '06 7:06 PM (permalink)
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        Ditto!!!
         
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