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Merge and Split Thread management tools Thu. Sep 4, '03 5:17 PM (permalink)
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It would be helpful to be able to split and merge threads as some of the other bb's allow. Often times there are 2 or 3 threads on the same topic and we combine them into one. The split is used when more than one topic has emerged but it is worth keeping both but just not in the same thread.

BTW..2.1.1 is looking great...we have it up and running. I love it. Your upgrades and features are excellent and you get them done fast. Very impressed and happy.
 
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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Thu. Sep 4, '03 9:43 PM (permalink)
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Thanks for your comment.

Our software maintains a strong parent-child relationship (in a tree structure) among messages so it is not quite possible to just fit a thread into the another.
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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Mon. May 3, '04 12:03 PM (permalink)
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any further thought on merge and split thread mgmnt tools? vb also uses threaded and flat versions so has strong parent/child relationships and they still have merge and split. this feature is very useful to keep the forum topics orderly. I would love to see this in 2.4 if at all possible.
 
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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Thu. May 20, '04 9:56 PM (permalink)
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bump. I really think at the very least a merge tool would be extremely helpful. Split would be nice too but not sure on complexity.

Why not just change the parent thread id on all the posts from the thread you are going to move to the one for the destination thread to merge? You could then have all the posts moved from one thread into another. You could preserve the parent/child relationships of the moved threads and just have the highest level show the first post of the destination thread as their parent. If that makes any sense...
 
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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Thu. May 20, '04 10:18 PM (permalink)
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Thanks for the concern, but I have no plan to provide thread merge/split functionalities in version 2 because

1) only few requested this
2) we have other priority items scheduled
3) I don't think they are very useful features
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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Thu. May 20, '04 10:29 PM (permalink)
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Perhaps I can provide some more information on why it is useful. Also if few requested it perhaps they never operated a board that has it before. Sometimes you don't know what you got until it's gone as they say :-)

My moderators had this feature on VB2 which did not have parent child. They loved it. After the switch to aspg they were all extremely frustrated at the loss of this important tool which is used to provide better order in the forums and threads. VB3 which has parent/child relationships still supports merge/split.

Why is it important? Let's look at an example or two.

First let's say you have a 50 or 100 post thread. It then gets "hijacked" which means off topic in some way. Perhaps the new tangent runs on for 5 or 20 posts. Maybe these posts are relevant to another existing thread so we would take these threads and simply move them into the appropriate thread topic. This left the original thread "on topic" throughout plus organized the tangent info into an applicable thread. This was used literally on a daily basis to some degree. This was an example of "split functionality"


For merge let's say you have 5 threads which started about the same time in either separate threads and/or separate forums. The bad thing to do is let them all hang out there on their own. It isn't efficient, tidy or logical. We would take them all and merge them into one concise thread to keep the information together.


So if you asked my 50 moderators if they felt it was important you would get a resounding yes from all of them. As far as what priority to include this functionality I guess that depends on two things. How complex a merge/split function is to implement in the code and also what the importance of other items in the "to do queue" are relative to it.


I hope these examples better elucidate why the merge/split is very useful in an active forum.

Thanks as always for listening.

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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Fri. May 21, '04 3:34 PM (permalink)
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okay I wanna be one of the few.. The split option is sometimes handy for me too.. and I had a mod on snitz and I was able to split topics too.

Sometimes members wander of in a topic and still the "new" discussion is very interesting.. I am not meaning just going of topic, but sometimes it is valuable to split off that part of the original thread to begin a new topic with..

merging was never really necessary on my board, at least I cannot come up with an example now, but it isn't as busy as rcuniverses board.
 
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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Tue. Jun 15, '04 8:35 PM (permalink)
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I think Merging is necessary on our board. I really understand Rcuinverse because we had busy forum like theirs. We usually see lot of same topics in a page (or in different forums) and we got crazy about it.

The biggest example about this is our "Second Hand" forum. You can see 200 new topics just in two days. Some of users write in the morning and find their topic in second page just about afternoon.

So we made strict rules about one user could open one topic in a day. But people don't get it and opens for each hardware they sell. One for monitor, one for cpu and one for vga card. That's a abuse for us. Because this man is stealing others place in first page.

In all we delete topics till there is one left. So people get crazy about their deleted topics. If a merge tool exists we can merge them all in a topic and not delete them.

But in all, if it is very hard to do. I can wait till version 3.0 .
 
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RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Wed. Jun 16, '04 11:00 AM (permalink)
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Hey Gun,

Take a look at the marketplace on RCU. If you are interested in full-power functionality like that, send me a PM with your number and I'll call you.

Michael
 
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    RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Wed. Jun 16, '04 12:39 PM (permalink)
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    I can see how this would be beneficial too.
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    RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Wed. Jun 16, '04 8:40 PM (permalink)
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    Our moderators have asked for this feature too, even if it is a simple "Move this post to another thread" option, or "Move this post and the one's following it to another thread". Thanks.
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    RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Mon. Jun 28, '04 1:49 AM (permalink)
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    This feature also help middle message deleting would not cause to all child messages deletion. With this feature code moves all child messages to grander parent message. I mean in current version when a mod tries samuel message (upper of my message) also affects my message.

    BTW thank Micheal currently I don't interest with external codes. I plan to do something like a mod for APG.
     
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    RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Mon. Jun 28, '04 12:48 PM (permalink)
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    This feature also help middle message deleting would not cause to all child messages deletion. With this feature code moves all child messages to grander parent message. I mean in current version when a mod tries samuel message (upper of my message) also affects my message.


    In version 2.4, you can delete any message without affecting the thread's parent-child relationship.
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    RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Mon. Jun 28, '04 6:35 PM (permalink)
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    Thanks samuel I didn't notice till you said. That's and another reason to upgrade 2.4.

    This is the only forum that listen user needs and replies them very quickly please don't slow down APG you have great future.
    <message edited by gun on Mon. Jun 28, '04 6:44 PM>
     
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    RE: Merge and Split Thread management tools Tue. Jun 29, '04 12:35 AM (permalink)
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    Thanks Gun for your comment and encouragement. I will resume the software development once I am back from vacation
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